We talk about the talent vs obsession ratio in successful fighters and how the twins immerse them in combat sports culture.

What is was like to move through the Trinity MMA development system, progress in competitive grappling, fighting on the same night at Knees of Fury and eventually debuting in MMA on Diamondback FC.

We discuss our mutual fandom of Batman Comics and the twins shared passion for artwork & illustration.

Video Games, Dungeons & Dragons, American Psycho and conspiracy theory was ALL on the table in this episode. Enjoy!