The MAGA right is tearing itself apart again — this time over Tucker Carlson’s interview with Nick Fuentes. Kevin Roberts’s whiplash defense and walkback exposed just how fragile the conservative establishment still is. Ness and Jeff break down the widening split between Conservatism Inc. (Ben Shapiro, the Wall Street Journal), the dissidents like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes, and the fence-sitters struggling to straddle both worlds, like JD Vance and Matt Walsh.