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Welcome to Episode 23 of the DTF Cyber Podcast! 🎙️ Join our hosts as they dive into the evolving world of cybersecurity leadership, exploring what it takes to be a CISO in 2025. From technical acumen vs. business savvy to AI’s revolutionary impact on the industry, we unpack critical insights for aspiring and seasoned security pros. Plus, hear about Vegas’s tight-knit cyber community, data breach lessons, and the F1 party vibe! ​​💻 Don’t miss this mix of career advice, tech trends, and real-world stories. Subscribe for weekly cyber insights! 🚀 #Cybersecurity #CISO #AIinCybersecurity #DataBreaches #VegasCyber
Timestamps:
00:00 —Intro & Vegas F1 Excitement
The crew kicks off with Formula 1 hype, Vegas nightlife, and how local cyber pros turn big events into networking gold.
06:35 — The CISO Role Debate
Do you need deep technical chops or business instincts to lead? The team unpacks the “technical vs. strategic” clash lighting up LinkedIn.
14:23 - The Castle & Sword Analogy
Defending your organization like a kingdom; strategy, trust, and the danger of “fighting every battle yourself.”
20:10 — Stats, Pay Gaps & AI’s Influence
Why technical CISOs earn more, how AI is reshaping cybersecurity, and why partnership beats isolation.
28:27 — AI’s Impact on Cybersecurity
Working alongside business units to secure AI-driven projects — and the risks of “vibe-coding” without controls.
33:17 - Leadership Humility
The power of admitting mistakes: how transparency builds trust and kills ego-driven cyber culture.
36:01 — SOC Lifers & Innovation
Why some pros never leave the trenches — balancing hands-on skill with creative problem-solving.
41:01 — The Hybrid Advantage
Why the best CISOs blend technical depth, business vision, and empathy to lead modern security teams.
45:28 — VARs, Pizza & Procurement
How to question vendors the smart way — and why “what fails” matters more than “what sells.”
49:45 — Data Retention & Breaches
Third-party risk, compliance headaches, and why storing IDs “just in case” creates future breaches.
54:34 — Breach Fatigue
Lessons from a 70,000-user data leak — protecting your identity and regaining trust in a breach-saturated world.
Topic Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/geoffhancockcyberexecutive_ciso-ceo-activity-7384226546804449280-UtjG/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAAAPdJL0B8xce6ECZfPNPS2Hp24evoT2uY0E
https://cybersecuritynews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/cybersecuritynews.com/discord-data-breach-sensitive-data/amp/
Connect with Us:
• Follow DTF Cyber Podcast on X for updates!
• Share your thoughts in the comments! What’s your take on the CISO role in 2025?
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By Cyber PodcastWelcome to Episode 23 of the DTF Cyber Podcast! 🎙️ Join our hosts as they dive into the evolving world of cybersecurity leadership, exploring what it takes to be a CISO in 2025. From technical acumen vs. business savvy to AI’s revolutionary impact on the industry, we unpack critical insights for aspiring and seasoned security pros. Plus, hear about Vegas’s tight-knit cyber community, data breach lessons, and the F1 party vibe! ​​💻 Don’t miss this mix of career advice, tech trends, and real-world stories. Subscribe for weekly cyber insights! 🚀 #Cybersecurity #CISO #AIinCybersecurity #DataBreaches #VegasCyber
Timestamps:
00:00 —Intro & Vegas F1 Excitement
The crew kicks off with Formula 1 hype, Vegas nightlife, and how local cyber pros turn big events into networking gold.
06:35 — The CISO Role Debate
Do you need deep technical chops or business instincts to lead? The team unpacks the “technical vs. strategic” clash lighting up LinkedIn.
14:23 - The Castle & Sword Analogy
Defending your organization like a kingdom; strategy, trust, and the danger of “fighting every battle yourself.”
20:10 — Stats, Pay Gaps & AI’s Influence
Why technical CISOs earn more, how AI is reshaping cybersecurity, and why partnership beats isolation.
28:27 — AI’s Impact on Cybersecurity
Working alongside business units to secure AI-driven projects — and the risks of “vibe-coding” without controls.
33:17 - Leadership Humility
The power of admitting mistakes: how transparency builds trust and kills ego-driven cyber culture.
36:01 — SOC Lifers & Innovation
Why some pros never leave the trenches — balancing hands-on skill with creative problem-solving.
41:01 — The Hybrid Advantage
Why the best CISOs blend technical depth, business vision, and empathy to lead modern security teams.
45:28 — VARs, Pizza & Procurement
How to question vendors the smart way — and why “what fails” matters more than “what sells.”
49:45 — Data Retention & Breaches
Third-party risk, compliance headaches, and why storing IDs “just in case” creates future breaches.
54:34 — Breach Fatigue
Lessons from a 70,000-user data leak — protecting your identity and regaining trust in a breach-saturated world.
Topic Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/geoffhancockcyberexecutive_ciso-ceo-activity-7384226546804449280-UtjG/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAAAPdJL0B8xce6ECZfPNPS2Hp24evoT2uY0E
https://cybersecuritynews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/cybersecuritynews.com/discord-data-breach-sensitive-data/amp/
Connect with Us:
• Follow DTF Cyber Podcast on X for updates!
• Share your thoughts in the comments! What’s your take on the CISO role in 2025?