Caleb just got back from being involved in a NASA planetary protection panel. He and Steve start out talking about getting grants for science projects and the importance of public funding. They also discuss the beauty of the Eureka Moment in science that all scientists hope for and the role of luck in science. On the other side of the coin they also talk about when you spend a week experimenting and getting no results. Steve explains a little bit about the experiments he does and some of the techniques involved which leads them into a discussion of how mechanical living cells are. Finally, they wrap up the show with some UFC talk.