Today, we chatted with Utah researcher Carl VIbe and his work with Ret. UASF and BASS employee Chris Bartel. Their unique friendship has challenged the status quo that is the skinwalker ranch lore. Was the Robert Bigelow project "AAWSAP" a program possibly testing energy weapons on unsuspecting team members like Chris Bartel? We dive deep into everything AAWSAP, Bigelow, and the Skinwalker narrative spun over the years.

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