This week, we revisit one of our favorite topics: how to decide between operating roles and the portfolio life when it comes to your career. Ceci Stallmith joins us to talk about jumping back into operating as head of marketing at Lovable, and we get radically candid about all the things: stepping off the career ladder, balancing work and parenting, and the power of going with your gut. We also fangirl over Alysa Liu, lament Dario’s recent keynote, and wonder whether employing humans will someday be a luxury flex.

Mercury is back as the headline sponsor for year two of Great Chat. Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

This podcast is edited by Eric Johnson from ⁠LightningPod: https://lightningpod.fm/