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In this reflective conversation, we look back at the insights our guests have shared and explore what it means to move through change with intention. We talk about courage when it wobbles, the freedom of admitting “I don’t know,” and how breaking big ideas into smaller, human-sized pieces can make it easier to take the best next step forward.

We also meet Ndoni’s inner drill sergeant — the one who pushes too hard, too fast, and ensures no one has a good time when he’s in charge — and we answer one of the internet's favourite friend quizzes.

An open, honest episode for anyone trying to find their next, best step.