Noy shares her big 'heecret' with Nisa and our listeners! Can you guess what it is?

• "Technically I'm still not even eating as much as I would if I went to a Lao food festival"
• "It's good to hear these stories for other people, right? women like want to box ourselves in this biological clock and tie our, our self worth to it"

Intro/Outro music: Ling L-zone X Ma Lai X Lae Laostha