California and Nevada CU Leagues CEO Diana Dykstra gears up for retirement while her successor, Scott Simpson, brings Utah into the fold.

Also, Natasha and Michael discuss potential podcast merch in the form of a lunchbox, apparently everybody is in LA, and Michael says two words that should send chills down the spine of anyone on the road: "Baby Driver".

Link to Natasha's 2011 interview with Diana Dykstra.