On the *Occupy Democrats Show*, hosts Mark and Jason Kull discuss two major issues: the controversy surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein client list and the catastrophic floods in Texas. They express skepticism about Attorney General Pam Bondi’s claim that the Epstein case is closed with no client list, despite her earlier statement on Fox News that the files were on her desk for review. They highlight contradictions from Trump administration officials, including Kash Patel and Carolyn Levitt, who evade direct answers about the list’s existence. The hosts argue that the lack of transparency suggests an effort to protect powerful figures, including Donald Trump, who was closely associated with Epstein. They criticize the administration’s obfuscation, pointing to court cases and public evidence linking Trump to Epstein, and call for the release of any existing list to hold accountable those involved. The discussion also covers the devastating July 4th weekend floods in central Texas, which killed over 100 people, including 28 children, with Kerr County hit hardest. The hosts blame staffing cuts to the National Weather Service under Trump’s administration, which reduced critical personnel like meteorologists and hydrologists by 10-17%. These cuts, they argue, weakened flood warning systems, potentially exacerbating the tragedy. They refute Levitt’s claim that the offices were well-staffed, citing vacant key roles and reduced weather balloon launches as evidence of diminished forecasting capacity. The hosts emphasize that while Trump didn’t cause the floods, his administration’s policies created conditions for inadequate disaster response. They also briefly mention ICE’s aggressive tactics in MacArthur Park, chasing children in tactical gear, as another example of mismanagement. Throughout, they condemn the administration’s dishonesty and call for accountability, urging listeners to demand transparency and better governance.