In Episode 213 of the Big Red Bus, See Red Fred and Doug discuss the last show, the Alex Caruso trade (again), the ongoing Josh Giddey negotiations, and the Bulls’ bleak placement at #11 in ESPN’s rebuild rankings by Tim Bontemps. They also react to the Billy Donovan extension and debate whether the Bulls will go over or under their Vegas-projected 32.5 wins.

0:00 – Doug’s Mad at Mark / The Caruso Trade Debate (again)                                                  16:30 – Josh Giddey Negotiations
22:22 – No Sign-and-Trades                                                                                                  31:00 – Billy Donovan Extension
32:50 – Vegas Win Totals: 32.5 for the Bulls
45:00 – Tim Bontemps’ ESPN Article: Rebuild Rankings
55:00 – Get an Actual Bus?