The Free Birth Society promises new mothers that they can have their babies without the coercion and unnecessary stress of doctors and hospitals. But is what they're selling just another form of manipulation? We're discussing The Birth Keepers from The Guardian and investigators Sirin Kale and Lucy Osborne.

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