Abby & Cat of the fabulous Swiftlore podcast join me to talk about age gap relationships, I Gotta Feeling by the Black Eyed Peas, packing lists, the Swift family's economic class, and Miles Teller's resume.

Also, we pit Taylor Swift songs against each other.

Songs this episode:

• Gorgeous

• I Bet You Think About Me

• It’s Nice To Have A Friend

• seven

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