Meet Petra Molnar, a lawyer-researcher, Associate Director of the Refugee Law Lab, York University, working at the intersection of human rights, migration and technology. We talk about the ecosystem by which migration tech is being used to survey and make administrative decisions related to immigration, refugee and citizenship law. Drones, facial recognition, AI lie detectors, and other tools are being deployed at the borders without any oversight. Petra also gives us a sense of what is now going on in the European Union, Greece and in particular the new refugee camp in Lesvos, and why we should be gazing at these spaces more.