Before Tegan and Sara sat down to make Crybaby, they had to navigate a series of breakups—with their label, their management, and (almost) with each other. “This is our breakup record,” says Sara Quin, “but we're not going to break up. We’re siblings. We can’t.” In the turmoil that followed, Tegan and Sara rebuilt their professional team, repaired their relationship, and completely reinvented their collaborative songwriting process for Crybaby, one of their most exciting releases yet. In this episode of Object of Sound, Tegan and Sara talk to Hanif about tenderness, tantrums, and the delight of destroying everything so you can make it all over again. To close the episode, Hanif guides us through a selection of breakup songs. For the playlist of songs curated for this episode, head over to radio.sonos.com.

Music In This Week’s Episode:

This Ain’t Going Well - Tegan and Sara

Evergreen (You Didn’t Deserve Me At All) - Omar Apollo

Cherry Blossom - Pom Pom Squad

Self Fulfilling Prophecy - Pretty Sick

We Can’t Be Friends (with R.L.) - Deborah Cox, R.L.

Happy After - Algebra

How Long Do I Have To Wait For You? - Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings

Bad Friend - Rina Sawayama