The Atomic Construction Podcast

"The Brotherhood of the Beam": Paul Wende on Unions, Fence Wars, and the Future of the Trades


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On this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin is joined by Paul Wende, Business Manager of Chicago’s Local 63 Ironworkers Union, for a no-holds-barred conversation about the real state of the trades.


From navigating outdated perceptions of unions to expanding fence work across the country, Paul brings sharp insight, heart, and a healthy dose of grit.


Together, they unpack:

  • The surprising truth behind union “mob” myths
  • Why fence work is the most underestimated trade in construction
  • How contractors and unions can (finally) work as partners
  • What "right to work" really means—and why it matters
  • And how Local 63 is reshaping the path from high school to high-paying union careers


Whether you’re boots-on-the-ground or behind a desk, this episode pulls back the curtain on the politics, power, and people shaping the construction world.


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