It's an afternoon of new perspectives in the café, both from climbing the rock candy wall and

chatting about LabVIEW. Climbing enthusiast and LabVIEW trainer Sam Taggart belays in to chat about

both, and how code interacts with the messy real world.

A rogue vine is taking over the café, but that's not enough to stop Jocelyne Morin-Nurse

from enjoying her coffee. Listen as she discusses leadership with Bojan and Jason, including

how to handle the transition from "team member" to "team lead".

A crowd of blue gophers has descended on the café, perhaps on account of the visit from the co-authors

of "Learn Go with Pocket-Sized Projects": Aliénor Latour, Donia Chaiehloudj, and Pascal Bertrand.

Listen in as they explain what makes Go tick, and talk about some of the strange bugs they've

encountered across their diverse experiences as software engineers.

A quiet evening in the café provides the perfect opportunity for Jess to join in the conversation,

this time with Pat Viafore, author of "Robust Python". Join the group as they discuss the challenges

and intricacies of testing.

What makes a good puzzle? Software engineer and escape room enthusiast Edaqa Mortoray chats

with Jason and Bojan about the joys and sorrows of independent projects, why debugging makes

a terrible game, and how he came to be the top endorsed Monster Slayer on LinkedIn. Now if only

someone can talk the unicorn out of forcing everyone to play supporting cast in his own personal

sitcom.

Jason broke reality...but on the upside, Alex Booker has spontaneously appeared. While he sticks

around to discuss common mistakes junior developers make, Annie grapples with whether an

eggplant macchiato was ever supposed to be a thing.

Time traveller Cecelia Martinez discusses frontend development and debugging with Bojan and Jason.

Even so, the question remains: is that programming book from the future that Bojan bought from the

rummage sale going to be useful in the end?

Logs, anyone? Bojan and Jason chat with Itamar Turner-Trauring, the creator of the eliot

logging library in Python.

Jason and a particularly floral Bojan chat with Reuven Lerner about teaching Python,

and the worst bugs they've seen (and caused). Meanwhile, Annie tries to undo a unicorn magic glitch

of her own.

Tomasz teaches Jason and Bojan how to navigate tradeoffs in code, while Annie struggles to manage the

temporary unicorn horn she's been stuck with.