What we talked about: 

2:00 - The state of McKinley and how the business has changed over 30 years

3:05 -Why they are staying in the workforce housing market

4:40 - Why they won't be expanding to regions outside of Ann Arbor and Orlando

12:40 - How they handle rising rents

14:00 - How to improve affordable housing

16:50 - How they retain staffers

18:10 - What they are doing for a succession plan

18:55 - What it was like coming to the U.S as a refugee

19:55 - His management style and how he uses social media

22:15 - His biggest mistake in business and how he overcame it