1:00 - Why she doesn't have a cell phone

1:30 - Her latest vision for Midtown

4:30 - Challenges for the neighborhood and how to keep people in homes

9:45 - Why the pandemic didn't Midtown as bad as other areas

11:30 - Her desire to preserve buildings as part of redevelopment

16:05 - Balancing preservation with new construction

18:10 - How Cass Corridor became Midtown

21:55 - Her succession plan

22:30 - What's still on her bucket list

24:35 - Her biggest failure in business and how she overcame it.