In this episode, Glen and Scott discuss lawful and unlawful orders, the blurring of the lines between them, and the ethical responsibilities of service members.  They consider the gift and burden of an intact conscience, the struggles to discern right action in the midst of war, and the weights carried by many in the aftermath.  The conversation acknowledges that our moral sense runs deeper than legalities and permission.  “I was just following orders” is not sufficient.  Glen says, “When you are in pain, excuses don’t help.”  We must acknowledge the deep humanity of our service people and make a societal commitment to sharing burdens, tending wounds, and righting wrongs.