Wherein the narrator talks for a while about a weird relationship with the stuff you used to see on file-sharing platforms, the ethics of consuming upsetting media, and then talks for 90 minutes with book critic Steve Donoghue about Thomas Harris, writing, self-publishing, coronavirus, The Godfather, Superman II, Rod Steiger, and other things.

Read some of Steve's most recent work at www.openlettersreview.com

Be sure to visit lucasblanco.com for the bookmarks mentioned at the end of the episode, of which all profits will be donated to getting PPE for medical workers (all profits barring the price of postage).

Also, special thanks to user Bone666138 of freesound.com for his wonderful circus music.