In this episode of Policy Wins, host Patrick Kalie sits down with Micaela Isler, President & CEO of the National Association of Business Political Action Committees (NABPAC), to explore how she led the organization through a pivotal transformation. Micaela took NABPAC from quiet industry convener to outspoken advocate for the role of business PACs in American politics. She shares how she repositioned NABPAC during the height of the “No Corporate PAC” movement, aligning its board and members around a bold new mission to defend and promote transparent, bipartisan political engagement.

Together, Patrick and Micaela dive into the technical but consequential world of campaign finance — from the push to repeal outdated prior approval rules that stifle engagement, to the case for indexing PAC contribution limits for inflation. Micaela also offers perspective on what the next generation of PAC professionals needs to know: that relationships, trust, and openness to opportunity remain the true currency of influence in Washington. It’s a revealing look inside the modern business of political advocacy. 

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This episode was produced by Quorum
Editing by Mollie Becker

Visual Design by Marcela Scarpelli

Special thanks to Micaela Isler and the National Association of Business Political Action Committees