Dr. Louise Shelley of The Terrorism, Transnational Crime and Corruption Center (TraCCC) joins the conversation. They begin with a brief discussion on cyber crime and its presence today. This is followed by a discussion on money laundering. Dr. Shelley then talks about some capital controls and the role of the United Nations. Peter brings up the topic of wealth inequality and Dr. Shelley shares the impact this has on the emergence of certain international terrorist organizations. They then discuss how terrorist organizations operate as a business and generate revenue, and how they move their money and commodities internationally. They talk about the rise of ISIS in Iraq and how it has come to power and continues to maintain power. They conclude with some thoughts on how to combat these kinds of organizations in the future.

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