In Episode 4 of Refuse Ordinary, Michelle Carr talks about the goals she had that were motivated by wealth and success, leaving her feeling unfulfilled, and how the Lord challenged her to trust Him and pursue His visions for her life. Her story involves surrender and learning to believe that Jesus has her best interest in mind.

Maria McWhorter joins Michelle on this episode, sharing her own experience with following God's will, which involved seeing the need in front of her and figuring out what she had to give, resulting in a journey she would not have expected.