In this powerful and deeply honest episode of Alex Martinez's Daily Chop, I sit down with Mike and Gloria Frisby for a conversation that speaks directly to the heart of perseverance, faith, and staying rooted in Christ when walking through trials that shake you to your core. This episode is not about pointing fingers or exposing wounds, but about revealing what God can do when His people choose obedience over offense, faith over isolation, and calling over comfort.Mike and Gloria share openly about seasons in their walk with the Lord where pain, disappointment, and hurt came not from the world, but from within the body of Christ. These moments can be some of the most confusing and faith testing experiences for believers, because when the hurt comes from fellow Christians, leaders, or church environments, it can cause us to question not only people, but purpose. We often find ourselves pulling away, isolating, and telling ourselves that because we have a personal relationship with Jesus, we no longer need the church, fellowship, or community.This episode addresses that tension head on.Together, we talk about why isolation feels safer when we are wounded, why retreating can feel spiritual, and how easily pain can convince us that we are better off walking alone. Mike and Gloria break down what perseverance actually looks like when emotions are raw, trust is fractured, and faith feels heavy. They share how God met them in those moments, not by removing the calling, but by refining their hearts, redirecting their steps, and strengthening their obedience.We explore what it means to heal without hardening, to stay soft without staying silent, and to continue walking in love without compromising truth. This conversation highlights the difference between distancing ourselves out of protection and allowing God to heal us within healthy community. It reminds us that while Christ is the head of the Church, we are still called to be the body, connected, accountable, and walking together.This episode is for anyone who has ever said, I love Jesus but I struggle with the church. It is for those who have stepped away quietly, those who still carry unresolved hurt, and those who wonder if returning to fellowship is worth the risk. It is also for leaders, future leaders, and believers who want to understand how to walk with compassion, wisdom, and perseverance when ministry gets messy.At the heart of this conversation is a simple but powerful truth, circumstances may change, people may fail, and seasons may shift, but the calling God placed on your life did not change. God is still faithful, still present, and still working, even in the places that hurt the most.This episode is not about perfection, it is about obedience. Not about avoiding pain, but about growing through it. Not about walking away, but about learning how to walk forward with Christ at the center.If you have ever wrestled with church hurt, isolation, or the temptation to disconnect from community, this conversation is for you.