Kody Kinsley speaks with Lisa Bari to reflect on leading North Carolina’s $26 billion health agency through COVID-19, Medicaid expansion, and a behavioral health crisis. He shares lessons on making impossible choices, driving reform under pressure, and turning crises into opportunities.

Kody Kinsley speaks with Lisa Bari to reflect on leading North Carolina’s $26 billion health agency through COVID-19, Medicaid expansion, and a behavioral health crisis. He shares lessons on making impossible choices, driving reform under pressure, and turning crises into opportunities.

The Capacity Gap: Leading Through Crisis, Constraints, and Impossible Choices

Most healthcare decisions that shape your life never make headlines. The Policy Stack, hosted by Lisa Bari, takes you inside the rooms where those decisions are made, introducing you to the leaders, policymakers, and innovators shaping how American healthcare works. Each episode unpacks the laws, regulations, funding streams, and operational frameworks that must align for any policy to succeed. We go beyond what policies are to reveal how they are implemented, why they succeed or fail, and who holds the real levers of change.

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Most healthcare decisions that shape your life never make headlines. The Policy Stack, hosted by Lisa Bari, takes you inside the rooms where those decisions are made, introducing you to the leaders, policymakers, and innovators shaping how American healthcare works. Each episode unpacks the laws, regulations, funding streams, and operational frameworks that must align for any policy to succeed. We go beyond what policies are to reveal how they are implemented, why they succeed or fail, and who holds the real levers of change.

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The Capacity Gap: Leading Through Crisis, Constraints, and Impossible Choices

The Capacity Gap: Leading Through Crisis, Constraints, and Impossible Choices