Liz recalls going to the sentencing of James and Donovan Cloud, seeing the faces of the men who took Josiah’s life, and the cavalier almost jocular attitude of the courtroom. As Laura says, Josiah’s case was used as a bargaining chip for prosecutors to secure a plea deal for one of the offenders. Liz also describes her shocking treatment post sentencing by the district attorney’s office and their public complaint department representative who told her “she was not a victim”.

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