Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.

Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg

Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8

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Chapter markers:

00:00 Biggest takeaways so far

05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm

08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts

10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“

12:12 Art as religion

19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes

24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom

27:29 “The descent of the artisan“

34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?

41:49 The term “disinterestedness“

45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“

48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?

55:40 Modernism 1890-1930

1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles

1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“

1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division

1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?

1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts

This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.

The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Dr. Nir Buras is a leading new traditional architect and urbanist, founder of the Classic Planning Institute, and author of The Art of Classic Planning. He designs towns, cities and buildings, and speaks about some of the most interesting developments in the world of architecture and planning and where we might find ourselves in the future.

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00:00 Intro

01:30 Buras & the Classic Planning Institute (CPI)

04:43 Projects and subdivisions of CPI

09:02 CPI's partners, seminars and live events

11:00 Horseshit, conflict and modern city planning

15:07 Cars and modern city planning

19:01 Three scenarios for our cities

22:33 The "Golden Age" in all cultures

26:01 What is wrong with the modern city

37:46 A holistic vs problem solving method

48:20 Place making is memory-making

57:22 Can a city have cars in it?

1:06:43 Traffic in Rome, Rio de Janeiro and New York

1:10:23 Town and country

1:14:41 CPI and the Anacostia River Masterplan

1:24:45 The impact of using hands on the brain

1:29:35 An eight generations horizon

1:32:10 Olympic Games for handcraft

1:35:24 The Anacostia project and Paris' Île de la Cité

1:42:03 Daniel Burnham: “Make no small plans”

1:46:28 Burnham's six categories for town planning

1:51:55 The symbolism of where you place buildings

1:58:50 Getting cars off the streets

1: 01:42 The future of modernism is classical

This episode featured Dr. Nir Buras & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

The centerpiece was a photograph of the Anacostia Riverfront render design by Dr. Buras & The Classic Planning Institute.

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Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Jon White from the Crecganford YouTube-channel and Sturla Ellingvåg from the Viking Stories YouTube-channel to discuss the nature of myths.

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00:00 Thinking a-historically

03:33 From ritual to listening

08:48 Replacing pagan holidays and rituals

15:39 Changes in myths

22:26 Tactius' Germania, the Poetic Edda and the Kalevala

26:19 Sacred truths make stories last

33:14 Cut off from your traditions

39:28 Looking at history as a whole

44:17 A perfect product for corporate business?

48:36 Picking the shiny thing

52:32 Back to basic human stories

57:36 Participating in the story

1:02:58 Do what has worked before

1:05:46 Irony in eternal stories

1:07:18 Society after the cyclical disasters

1:13:18 Agriculture gives us cyclical myths

1:19:40 Recurring themes in myth

This episode featured Jon F. White, Jan-Ove Tuv & Sturla Ellingvåg and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Jon White has studied Indo-European mythology for more than thirty years, particularly focusing on cosmogony and creation myths. As an independent researcher and lecturer, he shares this knowledge on his YouTube-channel @Crecganford .

Mr. White visits Cave of Apelles to detail the major motifs or "mythologems" of the Indo-European mythological tradition and what they denote. Considering that the Indo-Europeans lived in the Pontic-Caspian steppes about 7000 years ago, how did their stories spread to ancient India, Persia, Rome or Norse Scandinavia - changing, yet still retaining their core?

Combining the study of myths with fields like linguistics, archeology and etymology Mr. White will unravel cross-cultural similarities in stories like The Cosmic Twins, Defeating the dragon, The cattle raiding myth and The wild hunt.

He will also share his ideas on how we best are to understand myths. Are they projections of the human psyche, the condensed ethos of a culture or symbolic manifestations of natural and cultural history?

More intriguing still: is the presence of myths and archetypal images particular to Homo sapiens or have they been transferred between human species?

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00:00 Intro

01:27 Who is Jon White?

04:21 Defining “myth"

11:57 The Indo-European creation myth and sacrifice of the cow

19:22 Who were the Indo-Europeans?

24:06 The academic study of myths

30:18 Cattle, three-headed monsters and Twins of creation

37:36 “Fame does not decay” - the magic of writing

41:00 Over 70 000 years of fighting the dragon

45:59 From cows to women - the problem of translation

50:27 The veracity of the poetic and prose Edda

56:27 The divine twins vs the creation twins

1:00:11 Defining “archetype”

1:04:31 What is NOT Indo-European?

1:06:25 Mythology and mindset

1:08:29 Inuit myths, and stars as protagonists

1:13:41 Ways of understanding myth

1:16:51 Polytheist vs monotheist worldviews?

1:21:25 Myths as projection of the human psyche?

1:31:39 Myths as condensed images

1:34:17 Pre-human myths?

This episode featured Jon F. White & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

The centerpiece was a reproduction of "Sleeping Twins" by Odd Nerdrum.

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What happened in the cultural life in 19th century France that lead to the rise of avant-garde art in America? Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Michael Pearce to review his book Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde.

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00:00 "Bohemian" and irresponsible?

03:16 The origin of "Bohemian"

06:47 Courbet - an old-master "modernist"

09:10 Courbet's loyalty to the time

15:48 Science and industrialization killed poetry

18:40 Proudhon, and the marriage of art and socialism

23:12 Courbet's attack on classical values

29:33 Victor Hugo: the sublime, sensual and sentimental

36:15 A Bohemian, ludicrous way of dying

39:36 Theophile Gautier's l'Art pour l'Art, psychedelics, spiritism and theosophy

42:47 Zola: modernist or classical?

48:26 Manet, the father of avant-garde modern art

54:10 Zola's "hour of demolition"

1:00:40 The Hippie movement

1:03:51 How to be a REAL Bohemian

1:07:50 Zola's isolated artists

1:13:58 Myths: the core classical value

1:16:19 The coquette Romantic?

This episode featured Michael Pearce & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Michael Pearce is a writer, painter, teacher and curator, as well as the founder of The Representational Art Conference (TRAC). His book "Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde" uncovers one thing Lenin, Hitler and Roosevelt had in common:

A keen eye for art as state propaganda.

Avoiding the old-fashioned vs modern dichotomy, Pearce shows the cultural historical roots of employing both figurative and abstract painting to further political correctness.

Pearce traces it back to 19th century socialist thinking, and goes in-depth on the ideas of philosophers like Proudhon and Saint-Simon, as well as the protests of Emile Zola.

First and foremost, however, he shows how the the American government and a few wealthy families made Avant-garde art into the preferred art form of the 20th century, casting it as the antidote to the sentimentality of kitsch.

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Chapter markers:

00:00 Intro

01:32 Understanding Kitsch and the Avant-Garde

05:01 Who is Michael Pearce?

08:06 The proto-Communist Avant-Garde

12:47 Proudhon's authoritarian state art

16:22 Proudhon on Courbet and aesthetic ideals

22:02 Courbet, Repin, and Russian realism

23:25 The Bohemian Avant-Garde

26:00 Emile Zola's individualism vs Proudhon

29:59 Capturing the Zeitgeist

33:50 The battle between Avant-Gardes in Soviet Russia

41:49 An individualist Avant-Garde?

42:43 Socialist Realism in the USSR and the USSA

45:36 Nazi art vs Roosevelt's path

47:46 Socialism and the art of the enemy

50:20 Hitler's qualities as a painter

52:19 Degenerate Art and House of German Art

57:25 The sentimental art of the enemy

59:45 The propagandist Nelson Rockefeller

1:02:24 The figurative/kitsch/Hitler connection

1:06:37 Greenberg's essay Avant-Garde and Kitsch

1:11:37 Nazi art: kitsch or bona fide modernism?

1:20:11 Primitive American art as the mother of modernism

1:26:33 Roosevelt & the marriage of USSA and MoMA

1:30:04 The current situation in the art world

1:35:56 The American illustration tradition and escapism

1:38:37 Fergus Ryan: What is "Imaginative realism"?

1:40:37 Fergus Ryan:: What is "emergence" in painting?

1:43:59 Question: Is there a refuge for the human spirit?

This episode featured Michael Pearce & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

The centerpiece was a reproduction of Courbets painting of Proudhon and his children.

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Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into Norse mythology.

Ellingvåg is the historian behind the YouTube-channel Viking Stories .

He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows.

Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q81uTkxnsY

Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTXjioACKt8

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00:00 Bridges, wells and guardians

02:04 Shamanic journey and disentanglement

08:40 Wisdom literature

11:10 Struggles and Loki as hero

17:25 Gods exposed to laws of nature

20:34 Odin: ferryman or Attila the Hun?

26:58 Odin & The spear dancer

30:00 Was Odin crucified or hanged?

32:40 What the next Ragnarök will look like

42:37 The 4.2k event

43:56 Religion and more totalitarian societies

45:54 Will your work survive future regimes? Bulgakov and Solzhenitsyn

51:39 The optimism of the Poetic Edda

This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Seth Fite is a classical painter born in England, who grew up in the United States. From the new world, he is inspired by American Golden Age illustrators, Andrew and N. C. Wyeth, and the Cincinnati master Frank Duveneck. From the old world, he has studied masters such as Rembrandt and Velasquez. In 2019 he was a student of Odd Nerdrum.

Fite has been told to "find his own voice" and "do something new", as well as other clichés, but he sees little use of this. He strives to strike the vulnerable spot of humankind, the same spot found by masters before him.

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01:49 Illustration and old masters

06:28 The spirit of Andrew Wyeth

11:22 Getting to know the model

15:36 "Make the eyes more sad"

22:14 Painting from memory

27:09 Andrew Wyeth's status today

30:07 The Bible, and finding the divine in things

35:43 Painting biblical motifs

40:32 Comparing Kierkegaard and Nerdrum

45:48 Reflecting the times is superficial

50:47 Nerdrum destroyed the "Art" word for me

53:17 "Sincere", "true" and "genuine"?

57:30 Joy in recognition

1:06:48 Beauty brings melancholy

1:12:32 Andrew Wyeth's popularity in the East

1:16:12 Something "below" or "behind" the motif?

1:20:07 Stuck in ancient problems

This episode featured Seth Fite & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

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Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into Norse mythology.

Ellingvåg is the historian behind @VikingStories .

He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows.

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00:00 Norse creation myths

04:33 Attacking sacred trees: Yggdrasil & Irminsul

14:23 Ragnarok - the world ending is not the end of the world

18:26 "Asia Men" & the Germanic world view

23:09 Odin's wisdom & travels to the underworld

29:18 Wells, bridges, the number nine & Saros' cycles

37:40 Did "Hyperboreans" teach the Greeks?

46:11 Scandinavia, Greece and tripping reindeer

49:50 Fighting and dancing to acquire wisdom

53:25 Inuit & Sami stories: helping spirits and singing

58:05 Dancing, fasting and being more dead than alive

1:05:37 Odin's words to his dead son

This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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The 22 year old playwright Henrik Knightingale has just released his debut play In His Own Shadow.

The play is set 150 years into the future, where a miracle happens: a new theater play is produced - and it is actually good! Can stories about love restore our faith in existence?

Knightingale sits down to talk about the craft of writing a story, how he overcomes the challenges of writing, and how he "kills his darlings".

Putting his own play in context, he will also discuss the authors who spur him in his own writing, taking a look at the structure of Antigone and Cyrano de Bergerac.

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00:00: Intro

01:14 Learning how to essentialize

04:03 Sense of Life

06:16 Knightingale's play In His Own Shadow

11:45 The Shakespeare/Bacon theory

14:00 Questions unfold the plot

16:12 Starting to write

19:22 Causality, logic and internal consistency

27:59 The importance of a synopsis

31:40 Everything must serve a function

33:22 Climax and the inevitable

39:00 Developing the villain and killing your darlings

47:23 Subplots and double meaning

53:40 Learning how to write from Leonard Peikoff

56:07 “Plot theme” keeps you on track

59:48 Opposition, stakes and key concepts

1:05:08 “A nest of characters at each others' throat”

1:08:02 Trusting the audience

1:16:05 What is most vulnerable

1:19:28 The importance of being important

This episode featured Henrik Knightingale & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

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