In this engaging conversation, Mario, the owner of Symbolic Studies, shares his journey into the world of symbolism, exploring topics such as tarot, astrology, and the polar tradition. The discussion delves into the philosophical implications of heliocentric versus polar perspectives, the significance of spiritual centers like the Kaaba, and the fall of man into materialism. Mario emphasizes the importance of cycles of awareness, the nature of stars as spiritual realms, and the collective consciousness that connects us all. The conversation concludes with reflections on the evolution of deities and the need for a return to traditional wisdom in a rapidly changing world.

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