You’ll know Cerys Matthews from her hit songs with Catatonia and her radio presenting on Radio 2 and 6 Music and on the TV.  Steve Abbott is her husband, agent and manager

How was Tom Jones involved in bringing them together?

What was stuck in Cerys' teeth that confused her vegetarian husband to be?

And what advice did Led Zepplin manager Peter Grant offer to Steve on affairs of the heart?

Steve reminisces about the influence of Johnnie Walker on his early musical heritage.

And Johnnie shares a romantic story about his early relationship with Tiggy.

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Music mentioned in this episode:

The Day After Forever - Paul Kelly

Doris Duke - I Don’t Care Anymore

Snooks Eaglin –Brown Skin Woman

Snooks Eaglin – Careless Love

Snooks Eaglin  Country Boy Down in New Orleans

Al Stewart – Year of the Cat

David Bowie – Hunky Dory

John Prine – All the Way with You

Stevie Wonder – Innervisions

Stevie Wonder – Living for the City

Stevie Wonder – Songs in the Key of Life

George Mc Crae – Rock Your Baby

Brian Protheroe - Pinball

Beethoven - Cantatas

Carl Malcolm – Fatty Bum Bum