So much of the childcare conversation these last few years has focused on moms…and perhaps that’s

part of the problem. Both moms and dads are impacted when childcare falls apart, but at the peak of

the pandemic childcare crisis, they were forced to find ways to share the caregiving load. New York

Times journalist Claire Cain Miller talks with Reshma and Tim about how having all parents involved in

childcare could be a key to lasting change.