In this episode of the BRITE Ideas podcast, JP and Matt speak with Kaaren Hanson (Chief Design Officer, Consumer and Community Banking, JPMorgan Chase) who shares her insights and actions of a systems-thinking approach to design truly great customer experiences. Hanson notes that organizational silos are still a major hurdle to brands developing truly great customer experiences, and she shares some structural and motivational steps she has taken at Chase to better connect the data and creative executions on experience in the hopes these can inspire other organizations.