John and Rooney walk out early after the clocks go back, to discuss Autumn in Southern Spain, the Chestnut Harvest of the mountain village of Pujerra, and their celebrations, visits from all the offspring. They examin the world's lurch to the far right, one man rule, and remember Cicero, and what lessons we can learn from history and the Spanish Civil War. They discuss pitting their wits against a rodent intruder, and a brief moment for Chopin and Debussy.