In Episode 63, Chief Paul Joseph of the San Jose Police Department reflects on the most significant transformations in law enforcement over the last 30 years—and how leaders can stay grounded through them all. From navigating crisis calls involving civilians in mental distress to leading efficiently while short staffed, Chief Joseph shares practical strategies and deep wisdom gained from decades of service. You’ll hear why he believes every challenge holds opportunity and why the process of growth, even through adversity, is what truly defines leadership.

From Air Force discipline to Fire Service leadership, Chief Kenneth Pravetz brings a unique lens to the firehouse. In this episode Chief Pravetz shares how his military background shaped his leadership style, the surprising benefits of adding a 4th shift to your department, and why “luck” is often something you make for yourself. Plus, hear how cold exposure—yes, ice baths—can help manage stress in high-pressure environments. This is an episode for leaders looking to push limits, innovate, and inspire.

In this episode of The Chief Exchange, Alec speaks with Executive Director of The Curve, Chris Hsiung — a trailblazer in modern law enforcement, former Undersheriff and Police Chief. Chris shares how he found new purpose after retirement, and how social media can be a powerful leadership tool in public safety when used intentionally.

This episode unpacks generational divides, addresses the most common misconceptions about Chiefs and Sheriffs using social platforms, and explores where the future of law enforcement is headed. Whether you're leading a department or looking to step into a leadership role, Chris offers three quick strategies you can use today to level up your impact — and explains how exchange programs can transform your agency's culture.

Chris also sheds light on: silencing doubt, building trust, and protecting your personal brand while still being authentically visible.

What if law enforcement recruitment took a page from the playbook of pro sports teams? Sitting down with Alec Wons, Chief Stanley McFadden of the Stockton Police Department shares his top strategies for attracting top-tier talent, revealing the two best talent pools he recruits from. He also breaks down the challenges of stepping into a department as an external chief, the most critical quality he looks for in future leaders, and how social media can be a game-changer for engaging the community. Plus, hear why exploring other industries can offer the best solutions to law enforcement’s toughest challenges.

In this episode of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Chief Jackson Baynard from Henrico County Fire (VA) shares key strategies for building a stronger, more sustainable fire service. From increasing hiring numbers with three proven strategies to tackling mandatory overtime head-on, Chief Baynard breaks down the pressing challenges facing departments today. We also discuss the rising costs and delays in acquiring apparatus, the power of networking, and why the most important investment a leader can make is in their people. Plus, if he had a genie’s lamp, what would be his one wish for the fire service? Tune in for leadership insights and actionable takeaways you won’t want to miss.

How do you rise to the top at an unprecedented pace? Police Chief Todd Bettison did just that—ascending through the ranks of the Detroit Police Department, serving as Deputy Mayor, and now leading DPD as Chief. In this episode, he shares key mindset shifts, the importance of mentorship, how his experiences as Deputy Mayor have made him a better Police Chief, why taking risks on yourself is the only way forward and so much more. Whether you’re in law enforcement, leadership, or just want to achieve more in life—this episode is packed with growth insights you don’t want to miss.

Philadelphia Fire Commissioner Jeffrey Thompson joins The Chief Exchange Podcast with Alec Wons to discuss the mindset and leadership skills needed to take advantage of every opportunity. From transitioning into higher leadership roles to managing time effectively, Commissioner Thompson shares insights on delegation, relationship-building, and decision-making. He also dives into key topics like investing early, maintaining discipline, and the importance of mentorship. If you're looking for practical advice on success, leadership, and personal growth—this episode is for you.

In this episode of The Chief Exchange Podcast, former Chief Patrick Flannelly from the Lafayette Police Department shares why you are the only one who can place limits on yourself. He breaks down the importance of investing early and often, the staggering obesity rates in law enforcement (and how to combat them), and why excuses are the exact reason you need to take action. Plus, he discusses life after retirement in the private sector, the critical role of mentorship, and how discipline is the key to true freedom.

The fire service needs more women—but how do we get there? In this episode, Chief Toni Washington of Decatur Fire, GA, shares how departments can attract, recruit, and retain women in firefighting. From targeted outreach to fostering inclusive cultures, Chief Washington breaks down real solutions that work. Whether you're in leadership, recruitment, or simply passionate about diversity in public safety, this conversation will challenge and inspire.

In this episode of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Alec hears from former Police Chief Larry Scirotto of the Pittsburgh Police Department where Scirotto shares insights into the critical aspects of leadership, culture, and decision-making in law enforcement. Chief Scirotto discusses the qualities that make an effective leader, how to overcome hiring challenges, the importance of data in decision-making, and much more. Tune in to learn how to transform your department and improve the future of law enforcement leadership.