Greg, Brian, and Colin are joined by friends of the show, Brynn Roth and Ben Udashen, to briefly read lost poetry, but more importantly to discuss the professional care of children in Seattle today, and how we got there.

Follow Brynn on Twitter @GabeTheCat1, and please come out to Kid’s Out of Cages-Stop the Abuse at The Beer Authority on August 10th, 2019 at 6pm

Follow Ben on Twitter @marxistmanny, listen to his podcast Unpopular Front, and read his work on Medium