Over the weekend we got the tragic news that the founder of Dunedin band The Chills, Martin Phillipps, had unexpectedly passed away. Back in 2019, Tracey caught up with Martin Phillipps to chat about his documentary "The Triumph And Tragedy of Martin Phillipps,” and how he wasn’t sure he’d be alive to see it.

RIP Martin.

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