If you've bought a car in the last few years odds are that it's made with slave labor. How's that for a show opener? Gulp. Plus Elon Musk blames his customers and not his crummy cars, Michael digs into some bills presented to a guy named Gavin, Fred digs into the morality, programmed and not, of self driving cars and we discuss one recall.

This weeks links:

• https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w9524/w9524.pdf
• https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/interactive/2023/electric-vehicles-forced-labor-china/
• https://www.shu.ac.uk/helena-kennedy-centre-international-justice/research-and-projects/all-projects/driving-force
• https://www.shuforcedlabour.org/drivingforce/sankey/
• https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB316
• https://electrek.co/2023/09/15/musk-wanted-to-use-tesla-cameras-to-spy-on-drivers-and-win-autopilot-lawsuits/
• https://abc7chicago.com/kila-kia-software-update-engine-failure-optima/13796776/
• https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=23V628000
• https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/minivans-dont-make-the-grade-when-it-comes-to-rear-seat-safety
• https://www.autosafety.org/lemon-laws/
• https://radiolab.org/podcast/driverless-dilemma