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This book by Rena Sapon-White and Ella Schaefer gave us all the cozy Hallmark Christmas feels, so you might want a peppermint mocha for this one. In this episode, we talk public perception of high-profile people vs. the individual identity, failures in communication, and what makes a good character worth rooting for (“likable” or not!). 

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