This week Gabe and Justin talk to Ceceilia Quintana about the Nike debate and how to as a church move toward talking about racial issues and reconciliation. We cover Colin Kaepernick and his timeline from sitting to kneeling for the national anthem to his Nike deal. Justin shares a story about a recent run in with the police and an old one. we talk about preachers talking out against Nike, we talk about virtue signaling, having to teach ethnic children how to act around police, and a lot more!