The uncertainty and division we are seeing in the world right now is increasing. People want answers to uncomfortable questions.

Law professor Markus Wagner and lawyer and software developer David Turner are the hosts of the The Civic Podcast: Beyond the Echo Chambers. We may not always agree on everything (or you with them), but we give challenging ideas a fair hearing. We know that when it comes to difficult conversations, understanding doesn't mean consensus.

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