In this engaging conversation, Martyn Davey and Charlie Craig discuss the evolution of nursing education, the role of nursing associates, and the challenges faced in the healthcare sector. Charlie shares her personal journey into nursing, the importance of the nursing associate role, and the creation of a clinical pocket reference designed specifically for nursing associates. The discussion emphasizes the need for recognition and respect for nursing associates, the importance of proactive learning, and the future potential of the nursing associate role in shaping the healthcare workforce.