On the road, in the middle of production on the documentary "Wait Till It's Free" Colin meets up with colleague and friend Bob Renaud, co-author of the recent highly-praised book "A Tale of Two Governments: Church Discipline, The Courts, and the Separation of Church and State". Hear this discussion of a book that strengthens the church in a time when many do not understand the multifaceted issues of church and state, as well as a production update on the film on this episode of The Colin Gunn Show.