In Episode 4, Kenny Petty joins us for a deeply honest conversation about leadership, platform, and the subtle temptation of being noticed.

In Esther 1, we see a kingdom that looks powerful on the outside but is hollow underneath. A leader obsessed with image. Lavish displays. Public approval. Yet deeply insecure when challenged.

And that raises the question:

What happens when public image outpaces private character?

Kenny shares his own journey—from planting the first BLVD church, to experiencing the pressures of visibility, to learning what it means for the gospel to move from theory to embodiment.

We talk about:

Why leadership without character eventually collapses

How social media feeds the desire to be noticed

The subtle shift from feeding the Kingdom to feeding the ego

What unseen disciplines keep leaders rooted

Why the gospel frees us from hiding

If you serve in urban ministry, lead in visible spaces, or feel the pull of platform culture — this conversation is for you.

Because the real work isn’t what feeds you.