New York Times' Bestselling author, Jemar Tisby, joins Mark and Rex to discuss his book The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church's Complicity in Racism.

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Welcome to Jessup think I'm your host Mark Moore, and your co host Rex Gurney. And on the show today, we are excited to have new york time best selling author jemar tisby. This is the first time we've had a New York Times bestselling authors. First time. Yeah. We have we have last time, but the first time but Jemar is the author of the color of compromise the truth about the American churches complicity and racism and wrecks This is really a show that is continuing the conversation right? on race and racism in America and in the church. And what is our role to, to combat that racism and and to choose another way, and Jim Marrs book and this this conversation, I think is so important for us to continue to have, he takes a historical look at how the church has has either been silently involved or overtly. And it's a look that we have to take to be able to move forward.

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Hey, Tamara, thank you so much for joining us on the show. And excited to have you and I thought we start with a little bit of common ground. I was reading your bio. So you're born and raised kind of in the Chicago area.

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That's right. north of Chicago,

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north of Chicago and I and then you did your undergrad at Notre Dame go Irish? Yes, I did. There we go. So I was born and raised in Indiana. Okay, and so she Deanna though I think Yeah, very small town. But I did I did make the pilgrimage up to Notre Dame. And and we'd we went there a couple times on game day, not never inside, but just just hanging out outside. And well, it

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is gorgeous here. So even going out there is Yeah. What did you do one time?

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It really is the cameras beautiful. One time I was there. And somehow the doors were open. And I walked down. I was with my soccer team actually in high school. And we walked down onto the football field, and just started running around and basically acting like Rudy got kicked out by security.

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Oh, that's great. I don't think I've ever been on the grass of the field. So you had a deeper football experience was that I did. Although I agreed to go I counted it up one time. And between undergrad and the year after I graduated, I got to go to 24 straight home games. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm from the Mexico. So I have absolutely no.

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That's true. That's true. pretty helpful on there. But it's good. Good to have another, you know, Irish fan on the show. Now you're currently down in the Mississippi River Delta. You're on the Arkansas side.

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That's right. That's right. It's always using two people. I mean, the language is confusing, because it's called the Mississippi Delta. And then of course, people think of the state, but it's really about the river. And then right, it spans Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana. So I always have to specify I'm on the Arkansas side of the river, but the delta is a region and a culture all to itself. It really obeys no state boundaries. Yeah,

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that's very true. Well, I must be a little precarious being a Notre Dame fan.

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sec country? Yes. Yeah. We were absolutely passionate about football at Notre Dame. And but coming down to the SEC. Wow. Wow. Another World. It is another world. It's been very interesting. Especially because I have gone to school in Mississippi. And there was a time a few years back when Mississippi State and the University of Mississippi were both ranked. Right, right. Yeah. I mean, heads were exploding. People were walking on air for that couple of weeks. But most of the time, it's not. It's not that story of winning. It's been a nice time since then.

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That's the truth. Well, I'm excited to kind of get into your book, The color of compromise the truth about American churches, complicity in racism. And for me