In recognition of Metastatic Breast Cancer Awareness day (13th October 2024), we're sharing voice notes sent between us following a frustrating and distressing phone call trying to organise insurance.

Our podcasts always focus on how we try to remain realistically optimistic in living a cancer life. This 'pod call' was recorded immediately after Heidi's experience of dealing with a sales representative. It is an acknowledgement that because of our illness we experience powerless and frustration. We can't always 'laugh in the face' of difficulty but as Mand says, we can find ways to feel empowered.

Callers: Heidi Keeling & Mand Black

Editing: Mark Keeling