This episode is about the third Conjuring film, and 8th in the universe, “The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It.” Now on HBOMax at no extra cost to subscribers and in theaters. Eugenie is my first repeat guest and plays the Occultist, and Paul plays David Glatzel. My first 2 guest interview! Credit to Paul Wilson for editing the interview portion. This episode is dedicated to my brother, Matthew Griesé. Love you lil bro!