In a world lacking in role models and secure family structures, drugs and drug culture have become a dark rite of passage for our young men.

Today we interview Chris Howard, Founder of Ethos Recovery and Roy DePerez Founder of Back2bascis Outdoor Adventures on the world of substance abuse and recovery.

Chris and I also debate about the underlying reasons people use drugs in the first place--and is it even worth kicking up all that sand? Chris and Roy also speak in depth about the various strategies used to get a reluctant persons struggling with substance abuse into treatment.

Chris Howard CACD-III, CCMI-M:

Founder of Ethos Recovery & Co-Founder of Valor Behavioral Health, specializing in working with failure to launch cases with mental health and substance abuse issues.

http://www.ethosrecovery.com

https://beacons.ai/realchrishoward

https://www.tiktok.com/@realchrishoward?_t=8aVfKisDeln&_r=1

Roy DuPerez M.Ed:

Founder of Back2Basics Outdoor Adventures, Beyond the Basics Onlife Foundation.

http://www.back2basicsoutdooradventures.com

https://back2basics-soberliving.com/

My contact information:

[email protected]; 4125.497.1908

Patreon Account: patreon.com/LookJustTellMeWhatToDo

My instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benjaminrussack/

And of course my father's book: 

Animal Guides in Life, Myth and Dreams (Studies in Jungian Psychology by Jungian Analysts, 97)