They’re survivors of four infamous mass-casualty shootings — and they’re victims. Here are their stories.

Pamela Colloff, senior writer at ProPublica, moderates a discussion with Chris Grady, survivor of the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting; Nicole Hockley, founder of Sandy Hook Promise; Suzanna Gratia Hupp, former state representative, R-Lampasas; and Frank Pomeroy, pastor of First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs.

This event was recorded before a live audience during the 2018 Texas Tribune Festival.