Payto and Panda are joined by special guest Brendan Cannon, who says Australian rugby is at its lowest ebb and calls for bold leadership from the ARU.  <p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>

Payto and Panda are joined by special guest Brendan Cannon, who says Australian rugby is at its lowest ebb and calls for bold leadership from the ARU. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Payto and Panda are joined by special guest Brendan Cannon, who says Australian rugby is at its lowest ebb and calls for bold leadership from the ARU. &nbsp;<p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener" rel="noopener noreferrer">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>

The continuing Super Rugby Saga and what's going wrong at the Reds.

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