David Korten is an economist, author, and progressive activist with a background in international business. He is the president of the Living Economy Forum, co-chair of the New Economy Working Group, co-founder of YES! Magazine, and a member of the Club of Rome. His books include When Corporations Rule the World and The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community. Our conversation covered a broad range of topics from economics to ecology, cultural myths to systems thinking. As you would expect, connections abound: questioning the purpose of an economy ties David's conversation directly to Laura Musikanski, Timothy Morton's mesh returns in a different form, and we hear a bit of the biocentric/anthropocentric tension that appeared in my conversation with Chris McKay.